sorry : not in a mood for debate at the moment : i called you a wuppie just to have you talk more : conflict for the mere sake of conflict you know.

i could be out doing jimmoi day things : but i figured heather was going to stay over : but dont look at me : im not depressed : no : i wasnt expecting her to stay : so i cannot be depressed if i wasn't expecting it : ah : lovely internal mind psychology : but anyway : i could have had her drive me to jimmoi's : I didnt : i didnt feel like imposing myself on him : reguardless of how much i knew i wouldnt be imposing : i just wanted to be with heather : ... yeah.

so i'll just sit here this FUNZO day.
specifically not having fun.

and i'm not depressed god-damnit.
why the hell do my parents always think these things?
there is nothing to be depressed about.

"What'd you do to piss her off?"
"What do you mean?"
"Well she left in a hurry and called you insane."
"Oh... that's just what she does."
"You ok? Everything all right?"
"Of course. Why wouldn't I be?"

yeah... well.. shut up.

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Rebuttal²

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Okay. Obviously you were not getting the point about the whole hippie thing. I do not think you are a hippie, nor am i accusing you of being one, or ever being one, nor have i actually ever accused you of being a hippie. The point is, anybody can accuse anybody of being anything without having an actually basis for that accusation.

As for the accusation that i am BECOMING a yuppie, i would argue that point as well. Being in a large major university does not mean you are going to be, or striving to be, a yuppie. Before yuppies were around, people were going to large universities. Teachers go to universities, doctors go to universities, politicians go to universities, housewives go to universities...none of these professions are overrun by yuppies. Yuppies is category in which you strive to make money to make money. It isn't for spending cash per se...though that can be a factor.

By driving a nice car...there are two points to consider. First...who doesn't? I have yet to meet an individual who purposefully goes out to choose the lowest piece of shit car out there. You certainly didn't go out to get a 1981 Oldsmobile, did you jimmy? People all over search for a nice car because nice cars equal dependability. Dependability means you don't have to put oil in your car every five minutess. Secondly, think about why i would want to drive a nice car. It isn't so much for the nice-ness as for the fact that any car would have run better than the Oldsmobile. Think back...do you remember how much i liked the Trooper because it was far more dependable. It wasn't exactly a gem, but i liked driving it because it was far more DEPENDABLE.

I don't want to live in a big city. I would much rather live nearby something with landscape, not skyscrapers. In fact, you should know by far that i much prefer going to places away from cities. When it came to deciding where to spend time, i usually choose hanging out at fort lewis then going up to Seattle.

As for my profession...you have to realize that being a psychologist entitles more than being in a plush office sitting on a chair and listening to people moan about their problems. Granted that many yuppie-types probably look at psychology for purely that reason, but there are far more fields of psychology than that. In truth, the likely course i will take with psych will either be developmental, educational, child psychology, social psychology, or research-based psychology. In fact, in all of those listed fields, i am planning on incorporating research methods. I am really disenchanted with most clinical practices. While getting a Ph.D or Psy.D will allow me to obtain a practicing license, i will probably not use it until i am middle aged or older, if ever.

My apologies for my error though, when i said that james didn't vote for any major parties. I thought he said that he voted for Nader. I was wrong on that. Still, it was not exactly a true point i was making. That was more of a half-hearted, "see, i can bring up things that make people seem like something".

As to the "I want to get a job for spending money" statement. Whether you know this or not james, both jimmy, justin, and i originally were trying to get a job to take a road trip, or really long journey if you must, to Las Vegas or Texas. It never really materialized because jimmy got a job waaay before justin and i, and we never got the funds and time around to go. After that, it was a matter of paying to go to Pierce College. And didn't you post earlier about wanted to get a job, or needing to?

James, your statement about if i had rich parents, and a free ride to college, that i would become a yuppie as well. Maybe, maybe not. One, that will never be fully known. Even if it were, under those same circumstances, so would you. So would jimmy, so would zach, so would alfred hitchcock. What is your point? Calling me a "wuppie" because i might be a yuppie if i had those factors is erroneous because so would the rest of the population, as you stated yourself. If it were a conscious choice, i guarantee you that i would most certainly NOT want to be a yuppie. They are far too disenfranchised from the world, and far too materialistic for me to even stand. That and i can't stand those little beady cat-type glasses that they were. Oh, and i don't like lattes.

...

also : merely because jesse doesnt seem to be posting it :

bradbury :
in the event that jesse is physically capable of going :
would you re-enstate the offer to pay rental for him?

merely because i'd get too much of a thrill out of seeing him being pegged multiple times by flying projectiles from my large barrel.

that and it'd be fun to yap about in killian's class and have her call us looneys.

ha ha.

? -pwease- ?

oh man oh man

I haven't had a good laugh like that in a long time ( with exception to "Screw you guys I'm going to listen to CYPRUS HILL" and/or "Only when I'm unconcious" ) - but with those two asides : yes : that was damn funny.

To defend myself on the accusations of being a hippie : I use these :

1) I do not use drugs. Hippies. Drugs. Synonimous.
2) I do not promote the general awareness of hedonism.
Fuck free love. Nuke the bastards.
3) I shower daily : and also wash hair.
Hippie hygene consists of pissing on oneself when they wake up so that the 'warmth' of their own excrement keeps them alive for just one more day of free love, drugs, and homosexual sex.
4) I don't lash out against "the man" and nor do I call police officers "piggies"
In fact : I am on good terms with most all "officials" which represent "the man"
5) I dislike the beatles.
Mind you I dont know if hippies are generally associated with the beatles : but name some other hippie band and I probably dont like them ( not including pink floyd, the doors, jefferson airplane, and rolling stone ) : the one hippie band that comes to mind is Black Sabbath and Led Zepplin. I do not like these two. Hence, I am not hippie.

there : now i have cleared my name of such atrocities.
also : jeff : you may not be yuppie but had you been given the same chances that a yuppie had : ie> rich parents : free ride to college : and i vaguely remember you stating "I want to get a job for spending money" : and lets say you had connections an a 'high up' job : you'd take it. almost anyone would.

so you are correct in your statement that you are not a yuppie.
rather : an attempt at being a "wanna-be yuppie"
we can call this new breed of yuppie the Wuppie.
so : finalization : not "Got Yuppie?" ... how about :

Got WUPPIE?

thank you. have a nice night.

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Rebuttal

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It has come to my attention that i am being accused of being something called a yuppie. This was because i made an inference in my entry [The Most Vile Thing Imaginable, Part V] to a time when jimmy jokingly accused me of being a yuppie. Apparently however, Mr. Collins, and Mr. Zach (Sorry Zach, but i don't know your last name) have decided to revive that title for me. Yeah. Even though i am clearly not a yuppie. Furthermore, apparently i am supposed to defend myself now, and prove that i am not one. Okay.

1. Definition of a yuppie: n : a young upwardly mobile professional person; someone under 40 who prospered during the 1980s.


2. Second definition of a yuppie: A young city or suburban resident with a well-paid professional job and an affluent, materialistic lifestyle.


3. Third definition of a yuppie (from merriam-websters): a young college-educated adult who is employed in a well-paying profession and who lives and works in or near a large city


4. Cambridge Definition of a yuppie: a young person who lives in a city, earns a lot of money and spends it doing fashionable things and buying expensive possessions


5. American Heritage Dictionary definition: Informal A young city or suburban resident with a well-paid professional job and an affluent lifestyle.


6. American-Australian Slang Dictionary: n. (Coined by Bob Green, a Chicago Tribune journalist: it is an acronym for Young Upwardly-mobile Professional Person) A rich professional person who dresses and lives ostentatiously. Yuppies go in for conspicuous consumption, nouvelle cuisine, and health clubs. Males wear button-down shirts, and designer jeans, and drive Saabs, Volvos, or BMWs. Females wear Ann Klein suits, and drive Saabs, Volvos, or BMWs. Preppies (q.v.) usually grow up to be yuppies, although there are such beings as adult preppies (s.a. guppie)
   a. Pertaining to yuppies.


7. Finance-Glossary.com Definition: A word which became popular in the 1980s meaning young upwardly mobile professional.


8. Origin of the word yuppie: [y(oung) + u(rban) + p(rofessional) influenced by yippie, politically active hippie.]

Ahem.

I suppose now i should further elaborate on some key points.

1. Young upwardly mobile professional, under 40 who prospered in the 1980s.
   
   • Okay. Out of those requirements, i match only 1. I am under forty years of age. I suppose it could be said that i prospered in the 1980s, ONLY because i grew up and physically matured during the 1980s. If those two requirements were all it took to call me a yuppie, since i do not match the first one, then by that same token, the following people could also be called yuppies:
     
     
     
     • James C.
     
     
     • James Nicholas Miller
     
     
     • Zach
     
     
     • Nick Bradbury
     
     
     • Andy Wegener
     
     
     • John Stewart (actually, im not entirely sure that John Stewart is under 40)
     
     
     • Every single actor that has ever been portrayed on the WB
     
     
     • etc.
     
     
     
     
   
   
2. A young city or suburban resident with a well-paid professional job and an affluent, materialistic lifestyle.


• Ah, well now, i don't even see anything that matches me. I am not a young city resident...I am a dorm resident. See, what Mr. Collins does not realize is that in order to go to college, i have to live in the dorms. Do i have a well-paid professional job? No. Not even Target was a well-paid professional job. If it was, then both jimmy and zach would be yuppies, and we all no they are not. Do i live a materialistic, affluent lifestyle? Hahahaha...yeah right. My parents got a divorce last year, and if anything, that sure did NOT make my life any more affluent. That, and i bought Target Mints. That should be a since of non-materialism. Otherwise i would have bought XTC mints.




3. a young college-educated adult who is employed in a well-paying profession and who lives and works in or near a large city


• Here we go. Finally, something that MIGHT be attributable to me. A young, college-educated adult...well, i suppose i am almost that. I am an adult. Am i college educated. Yes, to a point, since i haven't obtained a degree from a major university, i don't completely fit that. However, once again, i should point out that i do not have a well-paying professional job. Secondly, I do not live and work in a large city. I do live in a prison-like dormitory room.




4. a young person who lives in a city, earns a lot of money and spends it doing fashionable things and buying expensive possessions.


• Ah, now we are getting into the big players...the Cambridge dictionary definition. I am young...and that is all. It would be nice if i earned lots of money...but i don't. If i did earn lots of money, i would NOT be doing fashionable things with it. I would probably buy a couple of acres, or an old building, and create a paintball field. That is about the only way i would have expensive possessions. Oh, wait, i'd get this thing that they have, its some sort of projection device that projects TV shows and movies onto a huge screen. Then i'd have an indoor theatre. Then again, any sane man would want to have a huge TV in his house. Just think of the movie watching opportunities with that thing.




5. (Coined by Bob Green, a Chicago Tribune journalist: it is an acronym for Young Upwardly-mobile Professional Person) A rich professional person who dresses and lives ostentatiously. Yuppies go in for conspicuous consumption, nouvelle cuisine, and health clubs. Males wear button-down shirts, and designer jeans, and drive Saabs, Volvos, or BMWs. Females wear Ann Klein suits, and drive Saabs, Volvos, or BMWs. Preppies (q.v.) usually grow up to be yuppies, although there are such beings as adult preppies (s.a. guppie)
   a. Pertaining to yuppies.


• Hahahaha, now come on...do i really need to defend myself against that one. I don't wear designer jeans...i wear slacks. I don't drive a Saab...I drove an Isuzu Trooper II...and i continued to try and drive it until finally the damn thing wouldn't start. Then i got charged two hundred some dollars just for people to take it away and keep it.




6. [y(oung) + u(rban) + p(rofessional) influenced by yippie, politically active hippie.]


• For my last point (i could go on, but i really don't want to waste everyone's time), i thought i'd talk briefly about where the word yuppie originates from. Young Urban Professional. Yeah... and the word was influenced by yippie, which was influenced by hippie. Now this one i will have some fun with. Am i a yuppie? No. Am i am yippie. No. Am i a hippie? No. But i do know someone who has been countlessly called a hippie. James C. Hmmm, could it be that one of my accusers is, in actuality, what he accuses me of being?

Now obviously, from what i have said above, i am most certainly NOT a yuppie. However, Mr. Collins, and Mr. Miller at one time, considered me to be a yuppie. The only reason why i can imagine them coming to this conclusion was because of three factors:

1. I have a laptop


2. I wanted to go to college


3. I live in Seattle

Well, i should point out that these three factors do NOT make a person a yuppie, let alone me. While it used to be that anybody with a laptop, a cell-phone, and living in a city and going to college, would be a yuppie. However, these factors are no longer what can describe a yuppie. These are the new factors:

1. They own a palm-pilot. I have seen people who fit yuppie descriptions like those in Websters and Cambridge, and they own palm-pilots.


2. They are surgically attached to a medium-sized latte. Small would be punitive and unshowy of character, and large would be splurging, and unbecoming.


3. They have a life-time subscription to the Wall Street Journal, online. Yes, paper is no longer good enough. It must be digitized to be worthy of their attention.

You see, owning a laptop and going to college does not make me a yuppie. I left Roy because i did not want to be butt-raped by cows, and i actually wanted to have a life, and i was interested in Psychology, Philosophy, Sociology, and Biology...which is why i am here. As for having a laptop, i own one because it makes more sense to have a portable laptop when all i am going to be doing primarily is word-processing. Also, since living in a dorm is unstable...by that i mean that sometimes you are required to move into a different dorm when asked, it just makes more sense.

What i am enduring by these accusations would be the same as if i called James a hippie. After all, does he not have long hair? Hippie hair. Also, when it came time to vote, did he vote for the major parties, Democratic or Republican? No. He voted for a different party. Superficially, he seems to fit the model of a hippie. Why not call Mr. Collins a hippie then?

And don't even get me started on the Good Lunch thing. It is just a phrase i put together to mock the usual Good Morning, Good Evening, or Good Day. In fact, i only have used Good Lunch as part of the "Most Vile Thing Imaginable" series. I may not even continue using it. It is all a possibility. And what about Pluto? That could be hippie-speak. Pluto means death in Greek mythology. Is this some sort of hippie outcry against death?

Ahem, and now i say this with some conviction:

Good Lunch

1) deuteronomy 25: 11-12 :: haa haa haa. funny. Jimmoi : we need to get into a fight and have ... -cough- someone do something and then someone's body parts get removed. hee hee.

2) www.psychoexgirlfriend.com : it'll be at the top left for your viewable pleasure soon. you can go there on your own accord before i get around to putting up the URL ; the bell just rang : so i'll soon have to go : and i apoligize for the fact this isnt all that good of a post : ... but for an ending :

Got Yuppie?

hehehehe, the pestering small children and the donut lady.
i would have never thought about posting that!
and to think that it would have been lost in the recesses of my memory for all time!

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The Most Vile Thing Imaginable, Part V

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I'm baaack. Yeah, i know, no one is really happy about that. I have spent most of my time at the Woodland Park Zoological Gardens...the zoo basically. I have the great assignment of watching and observing an animal for 30 plus hours. The animal of focus for me: The Toucan. Realistically though, its not such a bad animal to watch, as it is not so overly annoying and not overly hard to observe. The bad part is actually those annoying people who walk by while i am busy observing and taking notes, and starts asking me, "Are you studying the Fruit Loop bird?" Even the parents and childless adults asked the same damn question. Is it that hard to realize that the toucan does NOT actually eat Fruit Loops.

Anyway, i considered posting about those group of people as the "Most Vile Thing Imaginable", but then i realized that they are vile only to me...and no one else out there can truly empathize with my tragic situation. Alas, i was forced to look elsewhere.

I was watching the news when a nagging feeling started to creep up on me. After killing that ant, i came to another realization, aside from the fact that ants are able to crawl up buildings and make it to the eight story of a detention cent...er...dormitory. I already knew what i could post as a "Most Vile Thing Imaginable". What is better is that you all have probably heard or seen what i am going to talk about. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you and i know them as information presenters and newscasters...the ever infamous, well known for their "Double Doppler", it is: Q13 Reports.




Hey Everybody, we made using the @ symbol popular!


Yes ladies and gentlemen, i present to you the evil vileness that is cloaked by the @ symbol in the name Q13 Reports @ 10. It is indeed time to cry. When all other news programs seem too realistic and too formal to stand, you can always change the channel to the newscasting equivalent of a child pumped full of ridalin and let loose with a handfull of magic markers, Q13 Reports. They tout there awesome ability to bring the news to you at ten, instead of eleven, which is only because Fox tends not to have anything worth showing during Prime-Time, except for Cops re-runs, or specials like, "When Rednecks become Mormons!". They also claim the incredible prestige of bring the weather tracking ability of "Double Doppler" systems, which amounts to two radar systems tracking storms instead of one. This doesn't seem to matter much considering those storm systems don't exactly move at speeds that one Doppler system can't handle. Kiro 7, King 5, and Komo 4 apparently aren't cued in to the power of wasting money on two systems to be able to track that extra inch that a storm may move in the time it takes the Doppler system to scan back around.

But by far, Q13 Reports is most famous for their liberal use of the @ symbol. Yes, if you really think about it, no one used the @ symbol much, with the exception of computer afficianados who wanted to seem "cool" to their other computer afficianado friends. Then again, even the true computer afficianados mocked others who used that symbol. However, now you seem @ all over the place. Obviously, well at least to me, Q13 is trying to use a subliminal message system to turn our children into mindless drones, that or Yuppies. (Shutup jimmy.)

However, their influence seems to be diminishing, especially with the slowing of the economy. People are trying to distance themselves for the tech stocks, and that includes the fads of technology...like the @ symbol. As a result, Q13 Reports have been struggling to come up with a new angle for being the "cool" newscast station. Working in conjunction with Mr. Harry Wapler, and John Ratzenburger, who after hearing about my posting idea for Q13, agreed that their evil must be uncovered, helped me to obtain a photo of a new vile project:



Yes, Q13 Reports is building a T-Rex to let loose on an undisclosed city in Washington. First they will report on the T-Rex, gaining ratings, then they plan on making it appear like they tamed it, and use it as a motto. They are planning on using the power and strength, and "cool-ness" of the T-Rex as their new motto, replacing the worn-out @ symbol. What vileness will Q13 resort to next?
I shudder to think.

Good Lunch.

one more thing :

" Good Lunch. " = Yuppie

it doesn't get any better than that.
unless... you start wearing loafers because they're comfortable.
and start to read books like "12 effective habits of highly successfull people" and/or "tuesdays with morrie" ... eh heh ... heh ... heh.

ah hah ... hahaha. turtle necks...
hahahah ahahahaha .... coffee ...
hahahaha... hehe... heee..... cell phones.... laptops...
..... " i want to live in the BIG city" .... hee heheee
eh hehehe college life with free HBO { p0rn0 }
ah hahahaha..... who's a juppie? c'mon... c'mon... who's a yuppie.
oooh dats a good jeff. ;)

also : Jeff : who is this "Jimmy" person you keep refering to? Have you sought counseling for this "Jimmy" who continually pesters you when you post that you have to physically manifest telling him to "shut up" whenever you are typing out a post? Seriously ... you might have some mental issues.

then again : JimmOI has the SUPRA HOTS for this blond girl in his poetry class : so much that he has the hots for her : that he's actually thinking about getting into poetry : because it'd impress her and her poet-ness : and she's a really good poet : because she read a poem today that she wrote and it rhymed so well that it maded Jimmoi cry : and he said to himself : "man oh man : poetry sure is ... rather interesting" : and so now he'll be making moves on all women who are blond : hell he even went through the trouble of refering to her as a "BLONDE" not "BLOND" : because she wrote a poem about how people forget to put "E" at the end of "BLOND" when refering to her : so to ablige her : and to get nookie points : he said blonde.

-cough-

other than that : i need a job : and i need a job at a book store : so sometime someone needs to grab my ass and i'll get money from my parents and we'll go book-store hopping and i'll get applications and try to get a job at a book store : and then i'll have money : and then i'll join jimmoi in poetry classes : and it'll be just like AP senior literature : with exception that we'll be ADMIRED for making fun of everyone : with exception to jimmoi's new obcession : the blonde girl who is a poet because obviously there is no skill to the "art" of writing poetry : children with finger paints are artists ...

{ part where the dramatic music cresendo... cue tears in eyes... pan room : zoom face }

arent they?

Nah-I don't get violent when drunk-I hardly ever even get sloshed any more, for that matter. Nor will I when we party-I'll be the designated driver. Also, the desire to cause you pain for your opinion has passed, now it's just out of the normal testosterone driven aggression. But I am still looking forward to seeing you on the paintball field. Then again, I look forward to seeing all of you out there.

Well----later.

Yep.
Jimmi, you nailed it.
Just goes to show, if you have money, you can brutally murder two people in cold blood, and get away with it. Whether or not Mr. Simpson is actually the guilty party-not important. Also, people from Eatonville cannot be trusted, as is the case with Mark Vermin. Oh, wait, I'm from Eatonville.....shit.

Andy Davis is in town, unitl sunday or monday. We'll probably party friday or saturday. If anyone wants to come along-we'll most likely drink a lot and go to strip clubs. I still have a good supply of Uncle Jack......

Jesse, you remind me of that newspaper from Seattle, The Slacker. They hate everything, and so it seems do you. It's funny, if I want to know the down side of anything, all I have to do is ask you.....Really though, the bugs and drawbacks of X are easily explained.
Bugs-duh, none ever made a perfect shell on the first shot. They came closer than most, though.
Drawbacks-They have to balance usability with function. If they made it closer to X Window, to get a little more out of it's BSD base, it wouldn't be easy to use, and noone would pay $130 for it (that is, except fools like me) But it still has the protected memory and file system that make unix far better than even NT DOS

The 13th it is.

STOP IT WITH YOUR DIRTY GERMAN PIG LATIN SPEEK!

'round here we's a speakin REAL TALK where'n yous can UNDAHSTAND EIT. Not like you an yor " deuteronomy 25: 11-12" Bowlsheeeit.

peash : keep et reel

friday is friday is friday :i can't change it now : everyone was smoothies with it.

skip.

heheh heh.
besides you stated yourself : you're 'getting ahead'

Shit. I already got that friday off.
But I do so want to be out there with Jimmi---I respect you, and your opinion (even though you're wrong), and like you, but still want to whip your ass (with paint, mind you) for what you said.
Maybe we go both days? Twice the opportunity for me to "reach out and touch someone."
Just remember-fuck with me.

that i will.
that i will...

-eats a cow-

good talkn' goin on : i look forward to bradbury's retort!
however, much like my icelandic friend zach : i am from the yukon : a territory in Canada which has little-to-no people whatsoever. So politics to me is all the different manners in which I can kill a bear without losing my head. Bears are a real menace around here.

yup.

What the hell?
You're worng, Jimmi.
Unions still protect the people, haven't you ever seen "Roger and Me"?
Ok-example-there are no laws that say "The company can't fire you if your name appears on a petition against something the company is doing" but if that employee is opperating under a collective barganing agreement (contract), there will almost always be a clause saying almost exactly that. You've obviously never held a union job (or at least a job with a very good union) I agree-unions do affect the economy in a sometimes negative way, but try to get a contract between a company and it's employees without a union. They workers will get fucked. You just don't fucking get it Jimmi, you don't see the small picture. The small picture is this-the lives of the people rely on the protection they get from unions-if you A) don't have a union job -or- B) didn't grow up in a house where the money came from a union job, YOU HAVEN'T GOT A FUCKING LEG TO STAND ON IN THIS ARGUMENT. How about this-go down, get a job as a forklift driver for, say, oak harbor freight. They aren't union, I recall.....
Then, get the same job for, say, Supervalu, who is union, and tell me which of those two jobs you could support a family off of-or are you to holier-than-thou republican to see things as a blue-coller person trying to PUT HIS FUCKING KIDS THROUGH COLLEGE, as you pointed out. UNTIL YOU'VE LIVED LIFE AT THIS END OF THE SPECTRUM, SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

No offense meant, and I still respect you, there just holds the small fact that you are wrong about this.

schwee.
good debates.
too bad about things I really dont care for ;)

with exception to that I do believe that Reagonimics works better than trickle-down.
I just have no evidence to support my cause.

-shrugs- eh.

I'd have posted that earlier, but it wouldn't fly......

Bettie Page rules.

Friday of that week might work. Can't make it monday the 9th, I have to be at work, or I might get fired (minor detail) I'd rather see it happen on a weekend, but if we must I can try to get the day off. I'll ask at tomorrow's meeting.
The sooner we come to a decision, the easier it makes my life.

Later